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Old 01-29-2005, 11:43 AM   #1
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i just switch over from AD to sentry because someone told me its better
but i've been getting some problems
i've read wickerman guide to fakes and i followed that
but when its cracking the site about 5 mins in this error comes up beside all the logins "200 - Keyword Not Found" and it adds everything to the "hits found" tab
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Old 01-29-2005, 01:10 PM   #2
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Problem is you don't have the correct failure keyphrase, or all the failure keyphrases entered. Stop Sentry and check one of the hits in the HTTP debugger on the misc. tab. See if you can find another failure keyword you haven't included. If that doesn't help...ask here again!
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Old 01-30-2005, 12:07 AM   #3
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Good advice. And I'm pretty sure that's in the tutorial as well, so you may want to re-read it.
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Old 01-30-2005, 12:25 AM   #4
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i think i didn't explain my problem clear enough.
it detects my fake phrases but whatever else it checks the results get sent to the "hit" tab even if its a failed login and i get this message 200 - Keyword Not Found
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Old 01-30-2005, 12:44 AM   #5
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You have to pick more failure keywords. One ain't gonna' cut it. Your failure keywords have to account for every page you might be taken to, whether those be from the site or a proxy. Because of this I use failure keywords only when I absolutely have to, that being when I'm trying to get around a block page that the site has. But like I said, when you do that you'll get these different proxy error messages from time to time and you have to enter in failure keywords for them as well or they will be counted as hits. If the site doesn't have a block page which is giving you a bunch of fake hits then don't even use failure keywords. In that situation it will be much less of a headache just running your proggie the basic way with fingerprinting checked.
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Old 01-30-2005, 03:21 AM   #6
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so i even have to include error from the site itself like "authorization required"?
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Old 01-30-2005, 03:45 AM   #7
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No, that isn't an error. Look, if you have 1,000 proxies that you are using than that is 1,000 possible sources for a fake reply. Mainly what you are getting is proxy errors and proxies telling you that they don't allow viewing the site in question with their service. So, when you get one of these you have to debug it ( Using the same proxy that you got it with. ) or refer to your debug log and get a failure keyword from it. Then you won't get any more fakes from that proxy, but you could still get them from any of the 999 remaining proxies. So using failure keywords is an imperfect method. There are so many different messages that can come from different proxies that you are not likely to account for every possible keyword that you would need to stop them all from giving you fake hits. Just use them when a site is presenting you with a blockpage knowing that you are still likely to get some fakes anyway. What you are really after is that one good pass. Once you get that you can pick a success keyword instead and that is a very accurate method. Make sure you test your proxies against the site you want to crack before starting. Doing that will eliminate many of the proxies which are giving you the fake replies. But these fakes which are caused by the proxies rarely get through when running standard without using keywords and with fingerprinting on. So, I don't know if the site you are trying to crack has a block page or not but if it doesn't you are actually making it harder on yourself by using failure keywords. I always look at failure keywords as a last ditch effort sort of thing when a site is constantly giving me bogus hits on a block page, like Pennywize protected sites for instance. When this happens I pick a failure keyword from it and then start again knowing full well that I'll get some proxy fakes because of it but at that point I figure that is better than the alternative. Then I keep looking at the hits I get until I finally get one that is good and then I pick a success keyword instead and then all my hits are good ones after that.
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Old 01-30-2005, 03:54 AM   #8
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oh ok i understand a little bit more now.
how would i test my proxies against the site i want to crack

ty for ur time guys :D
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The easiest way to explain is with AD. In the proxy analyzer click the special tab at the bottom-right of the screen. Then tick "The URL is password protected (Basic Authentification)". Where it says server at the top of the page ( The window will be green ) put the member url of the site in there. Now test your proxies.
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Old 01-30-2005, 10:59 AM   #10
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Great information for me too. I have had similar issues with Sentry when it came to getting some fakes.

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